These figures are a rough estimate of the death of non-Muslims by the political act of jihad.
Africa
Thomas Sowell [Thomas Sowell, Race and Culture, BasicBooks, 1994, p. 188] estimates that 11 million slaves were shipped across the Atlantic and 14 million were sent to the Islamic nations of North Africa and the Middle East. For every slave captured many others died. Estimates of this collateral damage vary. The renowned missionary David Livingstone estimated that for every slave who reached a plantation, five others were killed in the initial raid or died of illness and privation on the forced march.[Woman’s Presbyterian Board of Missions, David Livingstone, p. 62, 1888] Those who were left behind were the very young, the weak, the sick and the old. These soon died since the main providers had been killed or enslaved. So, for 25 million slaves delivered to the market, we have an estimated death of about 120 million people. Islam ran the wholesale slave trade in Africa.
120 million Africans
Christians
The number of Christians martyred by Islam is 9 million [David B. Barrett, Todd M. Johnson, World Christian Trends AD 30-AD 2200, William Carey Library, 2001, p. 230, table 4-10] . A rough estimate by Raphael Moore in History of Asia Minor is that another 50 million died in wars by jihad. So counting the million African Christians killed in the 20th century we have:
60 million Christians
Hindus
Koenard Elst in Negationism in India gives an estimate of 80 million Hindus killed in the total jihad against India. [Koenard Elst, Negationism in India, Voice of India, New Delhi, 2002, pg. 34.] The country of India today is only half the size of ancient India, due to jihad. The mountains near India are called the Hindu Kush, meaning the “funeral pyre of the Hindus.”
80 million Hindus
Buddhists
Buddhists do not keep up with the history of war. Keep in mind that in jihad only Christians and Jews were allowed to survive as dhimmis (servants to Islam) everyone else had to convert or die. Jihad killed the Buddhists in Turkey, Afghanistan, along the Silk Route, and in India. The total is roughly 10 million. [David B. Barrett, Todd M. Johnson, World Christian Trends AD 30-AD 2200, William Carey Library, 2001, p. 230, table 4-1.]
10 million Buddhists
Jews
Oddly enough there were not enough Jews killed in jihad to significantly affect the totals of the Great Annihilation. The jihad in Arabia was 100 percent effective, but the numbers were in the thousands, not millions. After that, the Jews submitted and became the dhimmis (servants and second class citizens) of Islam and did not have geographic political power.
This gives a rough estimate of 270 million killed by jihad.
Comments
And so this would mean that since Mohammad made the Hegira and became a warlord, well over 500 non-Muslims have been killed by Jihad on an average day, day after day, year after year, for nearly 1400 years.
Now about the 80 million Hindus, the claim actually comes from Koenradd Elst, a known anti-Muslim insulter, who actually derives it from KS Lal known for his Hindutva leanings. The derivation is actually a fancy work of "estimation" of "population decrease", mind you, not just those killed by Muslims. There is however no proof and these are just fanciful estimations. Anti-Muslims of course claim that Muslim rulers detailed their numbers for example 300,000 killed in Meeryt by Timur according to his own words. However, Timur's biography never mentions how many in number were killed in Meerut.
Now the claim about Buddhists is simply based on the claim that Islamic law doesn't tolerate anything except Christianity or Judaism. However the dhimmis depend upon the areas. It is known that the Umayyad governor of Iraq allowed Buddhists to repair their temple after it was damaged in battle with Sindh government. In addition it is also known that several Buddhist kingdoms were kept as vassals. Intolerance may have increased in future but the claim is just fancy.
As for Christians, it's claim is based mainly on "50 million Orthodox Christians killed in Asia Minor". However none of the Ottoman censuses at end of 19th century show such a heavy population. The 50 million figure is actually of Holdomr in Ukraine by USSR acc to "In Memory Of The 50 Million Victims Of The Orthodox Christian Holocaust", the samr source which the claim is derived from.
The claim is fabricated.
Now about the 80 million Hindus, the claim actually comes from Koenradd Elst, a known anti-Muslim insulter, who actually derives it from KS Lal known for his Hindutva leanings. The derivation is actually a fancy work of "estimation" of "population decrease", mind you, not just those killed by Muslims. There is however no proof and these are just fanciful estimations.
Now the claim about Buddhists is simply based on the claim that Islamic law doesn't tolerate anything except Christianity or Judaism. However the dhimmis depend upon the areas. It is known that the Unayyad governor of Iraq allowed Buddhists to repair their temple after it was damaged in battle with Sindh government. In addition it is also known that several Buddhist kingdoms were kept as vassals. Intolerance may have increased in future but the claim is just fancy.
As for Christians, it's claim is based mainly on "50 million Orthodox Christians killed in Asia Minor". However none of the Ottoman censuses at end of 19th century show such a heavy population. The 50 million figure is actually of Holdomr in Ukraine by USSR acc to "In Memory Of The 50 Million Victims Of The Orthodox Christian Holocaust", the samr source which the claim is derived from.
The claim is fabricated.
Matthew 5:39 In the King James Version of the Bible the text reads:
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil:
but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right
cheek, turn to him the other also..
Personally, I don't care to bow down to a rock in Mecca five times a day. In addition, as an agnostic, I am not impressed with worshiping the moon. Also, a pilgrimage to Mecca is not on my travel wish list. Having four wives may sound great, but for me, one is enough.
to shabeerhassan0:
People of the civilized world ( Shabeer) haven't any problem with the Koran -Mecca verses. {besides the plagiarism!}
Despite it's words being from a murdurous, diabolical narcissist, sexual pervert thug. We don't even know (for sure) because the only written texts that EXIST came nearly 200 years AFTER his death.
The gabriel DREAM, he turned into a "get rich, sex & power scheme".
Dualism - The FACT that the 4 oldest Koran texts that exist ALL CONTRADICT EACH OTHER. (unlike the Jewish documents, thousands of years older, that are available, discovered at various times by archeologists hundreds of years apart.)
We all have had dreams, but ONLY SATAN and his minions believe they should rule the entire natural world. SATAN. - the king of this world.
(Jesus said, to Pontius Pilot at His trial "My kingdom is not of this world").
If anyone takes an objective view of the concept of God, - HIS PERFECT nature as providential creator of LIFE and universe and compare that with Mohamid's "ALLAH"... the two are fundamental opposites.
one example:
ALLAH > The reward for killing under ALLAH aka Jihad....is 72 virgins. -----------> a Sexual perverts dream.
God -. the reward of Sin is death a "spiritual death" not physical, while the reward for purity ( no sin) is eternal life.
The civilized world of the west,China, India and tribal worlds of Africa, where ISLAM has waged war slaughtering "life" everywhere ISLAM walks (1400 years), is the EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE for any sane rational human being with an IQ above 85 to deduce,
"ISLAM is a brainwashing scam on "Useful Idiots", for the FAT IMAMS & Ayatollahs to "get rich, get sex and get power", TO BELIEVE OTHERWISE IS SIMPLY ABSURD.
The REAL 270 million soul question is, " why our elected leaders around the globe coddle these criminals"?
5:2……… And do not let the hatred of a
people for having obstructed you from al-Masjid al-haram lead
you to transgress. And cooperate in righteousness and piety,
but do not cooperate in sin and aggression. And fear Allah; indeed, Allah is severe in penalty.
107: 4. So woe unto those performers of Salât (prayers) (hypocrites),
5. Who delay their Salât (prayer) from their stated fixed times,
6. Those who do good deeds only to be seen (of men),
7. And refuse Al-Mâ'ûn (small kindnesses e.g. salt, sugar, water, etc.).
3: 119. Lo! You[muslim] are the ones who love them[non muslim but they love you not, and you believe in all the Scriptures [i.e. you believe in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel), while they disbelieve in your Book……………
Jihad declare only the people who broken the agreement/mischief land/terrorism/injustice
22:39. Permission to fight is given to those (i.e. believers against disbelievers), who are fighting them, (and) because they (believers) have been wronged, and surely, Allâh is Able to give them (believers) victory
8: 56. They are those with whom you made a covenant, but they break their covenant every time and they do not fear Allâh.
57. So if you gain the mastery over them in war, punish them severely in order to disperse those who are behind them, so that they may learn a lesson.
58. If you (O Muhammad SAW) fear treachery from any people throw back (their covenant) to them (so as to be) on equal terms (that there will be no more covenant between you and them). Certainly Allâh likes not the treacherous.
59. And let not those who disbelieve think that they can outstrip (escape from the punishment). Verily, they will never be able to save themselves (from Allâh's Punishment).
60: 9. It is only as regards those who fought against you on account of religion, and have driven you out of your homes, and helped to drive you out, that Allah forbids you to befriend them. And whosoever will befriend them, then such are the Zâlimûn (wrong-doers those who disobey Allah).
42: 42. The way (of blame) is only against those who oppress men and wrongly rebel in the earth, for such there will be a painful torment.
9: 12. But if they violate their oaths after their covenant, and attack your religion with disapproval and criticism then fight (you) the leaders of disbelief (chiefs of Quraish - pagans of Makah) - for surely their oaths are nothing to them - so that they may stop (evil actions).
9:13. Will you not fight a people who have violated their oaths (pagans of Makah) and intended to expel the Messenger, while they did attack you first? Do you fear them? Allah has more right that you should fear Him, if you are believers.
4: 75. And what is wrong with you that you fight not in the Cause of Allah, and for those weak, ill-treated and oppressed among men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors; and rise for us from You one who will protect, and rise for us from You one who will help."
If you are seeking the truth you should not just confine yourself within anti-Islamic lectures or websites like these.
You should also learn from the other side of the coin, from a Muslim’s perspective.
I would suggest you to see lectures from Nouman Ali Khan, Mufti Ismail Menk and Read The Quran along with Tafseer to understand the Islamic teachings.
We will all know what is truth and what is not when we die. Do as much research as you can while you are still alive.
I’m not here to defend Islam, thats upto Allah. I'm just here to call whoever is reading this comment to the truth.
Seek the truth with a pure heart. May Allah bless you.
My Friend, with all the respect you deserve, you are greatly mistaken.
My Family used to be Muslim but we are not anymore, I have studied a lot about islam, it was the religion of my grand fathers and I have to say, islam is a horror, a great lie, I will tell you why I say that.
Yes it is true, islam is the deadliest religion in the whole history of the humanity from its begining until today!! No movement or ideology has killed as many people as islam. If you are sincer and an objective "wise" person you would not deny that, if you do then you are out of reason and with all respect it is useless to keep talking to you.
Muslims always try to talk about other mass killings to not look too evil, the most common argument -Christians killed many people-, I would say, YES, they did, catholicism even protestantism killed many people BUT, and I will say again BUT, they were badly mistaken, actually they were acting as non-Christians because Jesus did not told us to kill people, instead He says "Treat other as you would like to be treated", He never killed anybody and never asked anyone to kill, so all those people killing in the Name of Christ were doing EXACTLY WHAT JESUS TOLD US NOT TO DO, they were not following Christianity, those were non-Christian acts.
About muslims, did you know that Mohammed killed more than 3,000 people? The founder of islam was a killer, again, if you deny that then you are out of reason, and it is useless to keep talking to you.
About killing, you cannot compare what Christians have done to what muslism have done and currently do, I will tell you why.
Christians were disobeying what Jesus said and not following His example, but muslims follow the example of mohammed doing what he said AND what he actually have done.
Why I am not muslim like my grand fathers?
Islam has never stopped killing, it has killed from the begining and kills until today.
The founder of islam was not just a murderer but a genocide, what example could he gave us? why to follow him?
It is not a surprise that islam is the deadliest ideology on history, his founder started that.
The worst atrocities of our days are perpetrated by islam.
When muslims do not kill others they kill each other, as you can sadly see now.
Those are facts you cannot deny, with all respect.
Muslims are extremely intolerant to criticism, and that is wrong, criticism is good, help us to find out bad things that need to be corrected, why are you so afraid of criticism? Is that you have too many bad thing to notice?
Some muslims complaint about the treat they receive in other non-muslim countries, BUT PLEASE!!! How you want people to openly trust you when you have killed too many men? Of course they would be scared...
If you really are a wise man, my friend, if you are objective and honest and really want peace and love, the most reasonable thing you can do is to admit that islam is not good and to leave it, if not, you are not sincere, and by the way, if you decide to quit islam you have to run because you will be persecuted by your own people to be killed.
I am not saying what I do not know, I have many friends that have experienced that after leaving islam, some of them, were sadly killed by their own relatives, Sobirjon, believe me, it is not esay to me to remember my friends, my brothers killed by their families, if I can write this with no anger is because God has healed my hearth.
I do not hate muslims, in some way I was, and Arabs are still my brothers. My purpose is not to fight but to show that islam is no good thing, I say it openly and convinced, my friend please take this extensive letter as a non-agressive note, if you do, then you are out of reason and there is no wisdom in you.
Melogardener-Funny I studied for 14 years to be a Conservative Baptist Missionary- Started my first Mission Church in 1995 started in Gospel Radio in 1996- I must say you obviously haven't read the Old Testament- But since you obviously cut and pasted that out of context verses- let me point you to one you that from your post you have certainly never read- http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-Chapter-5/
In the 12-13th year of Muhammad's career he delivered the fifth verse of Sura 9 (Verse of the Sword) which specifically abrogated (revoked or cancelled) 114 verses out of the 54 Suras. Ibn Kathir, one of the most well known Mofassereen said: Verily it (Sura 9:5) abrogated every treaty, contract between the Prophet and anyone from the Mushrikun (non-Muslims, polytheists, etc.) Al-Awfi reported Ibn Abbas to have said about this verse: No treaty or covenant was left for anyone from the Mushrikun after Sura 9:5 was revealed. Sura 9:5 expressly states: "Then kill the Mushrikun (unbelievers) wherever you find them" . Another Sura 2:216 says "Fighting is prescribed for you" and cancels all the verses that contradict it. Therefore any verse that suggests tolerating the non-Muslims is not valid since Sura 9:5 was revealed. (ref: D. Akbari, Number One Shariah Lawyer)
Muslim apologists seem to love to quote abrogated verses either out of ignorance or proof that Caliph Uthman's (approx. 656 A.D.)rearranging of the order of the Suras in the Quran and ahadith has served its purpose of ensuring non-Muslims do not understand the Quran or the mortal danger they are in.
Allah brags about drowning the Egyptian army. 2:50
"Whosoever hath done evil and his sin surroundeth him; such are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:81
Christians and Jews (who believe in only part of the Scripture), will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next. 2:85
"They have incurred anger upon anger. For disbelievers is a shameful doom." 90
"For disbelievers is a painful doom." 2:104
Allah will make disbelievers' lives miserable in this world and torture them forever after they die. 2:114
"And thou wilt not be asked about the owners of hell-fire." (They are the non-muslims.) 2:119
Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126
The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162
"On the day when they behold the doom and all their aims collapse with them ... Allah is severe punishment!" 2:165-6
They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167
Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174
How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175
"Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244
If someone murders your slave, then you get to kill one of his. If it was a male that was killed, you kill one of the killer's male slaves. If a female, you kill a female. Murder for murder. Slave for slave. It all works out swell with Allah's wondrous rules. (Oh, and if you don't follow them, you'll have the usual painful doom.) 2:178
"Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you." 2:190
Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2
Allah says that you must keep fighting until there is no more persecution and everyone on earth is a Muslim. Then you can stop killing people. 2:193a
But if there are any wrong-doers around after you've killed off all the disbelievers, persecutors and aggressors, then you'll have to kill them too. 2:193b
"Guard us from the doom of Fire." 2:201
Those who fail in their duty to Allah are proud and sinful. They will all go to hell. 2:206
War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216
Most died if small pox, etc. and the same would have happened if China landed in California. The other problems besides killing each other in big batches is whites proceeded Asians by 10,000 crossing into N. America during the ice age.
As a native American (I was born here) I get sick of that bullshit racist screed. Too bad but no stone age culture could have survived against a modern more advanced culture that's the way it is. I don't like what happened but get over it. American Indians are American citizens and the same rights I do. Move your ass to Mexico and see how they treat their Indians.
Is that the same God of islam?
Arabslavetrade.com
^ Muslims castrated their African slaves and put hot coals in the wound to cauterize the bleeding. 60% mortality rate. Women were taken as concubines.
-The Crusades were a justified, and needed response to Islamic invasion of the Byzantine Empire. The Romans' presence were requested by the Byzantines under siege.
Putting it shortly: Islam caused the Crusades.
Cease with the taqiyya. - Taqiyya is lying for Islam/Allah, to further Islam at all costs. Google it.
-it obvious that many Muslims online are either clueless about their religion/history, or they are simply lying for Islam by holy command from Allah... or perhaps the imams commit taqiyya in the Mosques because no sane human would imitate Mohammed if they what kind of many he really was.
Google: "Who wrote the Koran" and Hanifism... interesting read.
Another dumbass who doesn't know anything about historical context or exegesis. Let's put the old testament into context for you, since you clearly don't know what you are talking about (the barbarity of the catholic church, while inexcusable, is addressed in my previous post and COMPLETELY PALES in comparison to murderous history of Islam
Regarding the Old Testament, the genocidal tales told in the old testament are exactly that: TALES, not orders, not commands or instructions for the Hebrews to follow for all time, according to the bible different COVENANTS were revealed, and new covenants abrogated old ones (not to mention most of the genocidal shit happened BEFORE the Hebrews were handed law by YHWH, i.e THERE WAS NO SIN, and let me repeat again that this is all STORYTELLING, none of it is meant to be followed and that's clear when you read it). The whole point of the old testament was telling of the EVOLUTION of the Hebrew people, the repeated horrible thigns they did (i.e they are fallible people, unlike in Islam where a Muslim must always defend his Muslim brother no matter what he has done against a non-Muslim, because the non-Muslim is automatically guilty of unbelief and therefore the Muslim is automatically innocent regardless of what he does to the Kafir)
anyway you are a complete and utter nonce and you need to crawl back under the rock you came out from, maybe show your face again when you have actually READ A BOOK by someone other than Noam fucking Chomsky
1. Muslims purposely cast different conflicts as ethnic or nationalist ones when speaking to ignorant and naive western dhimmi wannabes such as yourself, who lap it up, but when speaking to each other, it's all about Jihad, maybe if you actually read and studied the Qu'ran, the Sunnah (especially the two Authenticated Ahadith, Bukhari and Muslim), if you had paid any attention to 1000 years of Islamic Fiqh (jurisprudence) maybe you wouldn't be so blind.
2. The Soviets killed about 100 million, almost a third of those killed by Jihad, the fascists of WW2 killed about 20 million, estimates of the numbers killed by the catholic church during the spanish inquisition and other "heresies" , and even including the crusades, don't even top 200,000
3.The fact that European colonialists and imperialists acted on racist, supremacist beliefs when conquering and christianizing the orient and the new world in no way excuses Islam for acting THE EXACT SAME WAY in it's own expansion, which resulted in the genocide of Zoroastrians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, and Christians (yes, it is possible for Christians to be victims!) Not only is Islam EXACTLY like the racist imperialists of yore, but Europe learned the hard way and for the most part gave up on imperialism. Islam is the exact opposite, and only seeks to continue, as sanctioned by divine law, as we see in Chechnya, Israel, India, Thailand, and the Philippines.
4. the Crusades were a response (albeit a bad one) to 3 centuries of unchecked Muslim aggression that saw the Islamization of Spain, North Africa, the Levant and Anatolia. Islam did all of that through conquering, after purifying the Arabian peninsula by murdering or enslaving all Jews and pagans.
5. Islamophobia was invented by Jihadi supremacist front groups posing as civil rights groups, whose intent is to cast all legitimate criticism of supremacist Islamic ideology as "racist" or "bigoted" in the minds of stupid, ignorent, kool aid drinking idiots as yourself. Is it Islamophobic to fear a creed posing as a religion that calls for the murder or enslavement of the entire world, a divine sanction to war and murder against the 'other' that all schools of Islamic jurisprudence agree upon (whether one of the four Sunni Madh'hab which make up 90+% of the earths Muslims, the Shia, the Sufi or the Ismaili) , a divine command that we can actively see being carried out all over the world, through both violent jihad and legal warfare (i.e using our tolerance against us)? Jihad was being waged against America long before America could have done anythign egregious to the Islamic world (other than not being Muslim, that is), look up the Barbary Wars. Never mind the fact that many of the alleged incidents of "Islamophobia" reported by such supremacist Jihad supporters as CAIR (who alone are almost solely responsible for the common belief in "Islamophobia) are often found to be hoaxes, perpetrated by Muslims themselves, either trying in insurance scams, or sometimes in outright attempts to trick the public into giving Muslims victim status! The fact is, according to FBI stats there are more hate crimes against every religious and racial group in the U.S annually, barring atheists and , than there are against Muslims (shit, 2/3's of religious hate crimes are against JEWS)
All in All, first poster, YOU ARE A COMPLETE AND UTTER BRAINWASHED MORON, it's people like you who have the blood of the modern jihad on their hands, you sick enabling dhimmis who sit back and defend the undefendable without even EDUCATING YOURSELF. it's like reviewing a book before you read it.
YOU ARE THE PROBLEM
Compared to 30 years ago, Malaysia is fast becoming the hypocrite and evil regime of the Middle East version of Islam. Violence, oppression and injustice.
And the Islamic authorities cannot punish the Muslim men in power, and only goes after female beauty pagents and atheletes who shows their naked arms and legs, and people who criticise the corrupt govt. After the arrests they continue watching the beauty pagents as if watching the non-Muslims in swimsuits is not a sinful act. Most Muslim countries are corrupt and cheat their own Muslim brothers.
The Muslims are facing death everyday (Death means separation from God). They reject alcohol but are drunk in their own sinful lusts and greed. To those Christians who died to their physical bodies, we know that they are with Jesus. So we continue with rejoicing for the Good News, and pray that Allah will one day be revealed as the Anti-Christ. Most Malaysians do not need the Quran to know that Allah is the devil and the Muslims their demons.
The world will be so dark that the only light is the church.
you guys seem here gathered especially against Islam and pretending Christianity didnt mention kill, how come there were lots of Crusades then in the past, WW1 and 2also were ran by one of yours, slavery was also huge business of Christian countries for centuries, how those black people come to USA what you think, however you cant blame the religion to the deeds of politicals which used it as shelter to their deeds, so please stop bringing funny arguments which arent even backed up by links of sources, do you really think this will stop wise people from converting to Islam, do you think they didnt consider before converting everything? it was your practice here in Asia recently trying to buy illeterate people to come to your religion and we are much aware of this kind of dirty practices run by you, however once people gets more inteligent by seeking real true religion then they are converting to Islam and this must make you think of it again if you are a person of wisdom. since anyway in the last we all will be judged to our righteous deeds ever we did in this life so not to regret in the doomsday, I will advise to anyone think of his deeds and choices once again with wisdom as there wont be any second chance instead of blindly protecting your own choice with no logical backup, and I invite you to this site where you can have a chance to debate and prove your words if you are sure of what you say instead of writing all of these stupid sues without debating? wise people will first prove what he says and if you think you are right keep on debating and proving this will maybe( I am sure not going to happen) stop your people from converting to Islam. here is link:
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/
I hope we all will not regret last day what we did in the past and think you guys arent just trying to blindly backup your religion but can also prove your words which I doubt on as you allways failed in debates but dont stop repeating words without any logical proof or backup!
Peace be upon you,
Sobir!
Secondly, The Quran allows you to question, ponder, without punishment. It's only a sin If you are a believer and then turn away from your faith, reject the word of God.
As for those who are led by hate and assumption, yes the Quran gives permission to fight the disbelievers under certain terms. Yes, there is a lot about warfare in the Quran, but for every verse about war, there's twice as many that tell you to forgive, to live in peace, to be kind, to not kill. As Allah is forgiving and Merciful.
People like to throw verses out of context, instead of discussing peacefully, they jump to conclusions as though they are here to win, to justify their point, not to learn or hear an explanation.
The Quran says, ...So We decreed for the tribe of Israel that if someone kills another person - unless it is in retaliation for someone else or for causing corruption in the earth - it is as if he had murdered all mankind. And if anyone gives life to another person, it is as if he had given life to all mankind. Our Messengers came to them with Clear Signs but even after that many of them committed outrages in the earth. (Qur'an 5: 32)
You who have Faith! show integrity for the sake of God, bearing witness with justice. Do not let hatred for a people incite you into not being just. Be just. That is closer to taqwa (God consciousness). Have taqwa of God. God is aware of what you do. (Qur'an 5: 8)
God does not forbid you from being good to those who have not fought you in the religion or driven you from your homes, or from being just towards them. God loves those who are just. (Qur'an 60: 8)
There was a war in every time, Christians have fought, and so have Jews and Muslims. A war is permissible under certain conditions. USA has killed many in Iran/Iraq/Afghanistan in a war that was not even theirs to fight. Starting a war by unjustified means is sinful in every religion.
Murderers exist whether they are Christians, Muslims or Jews.
Jess
You are right about the Catholic Church. It has committed horrendous crimes killing even those that they should had called brother, fellow Christians. The difference is that the Bible did not tell the Catholic Church to MURDER Christians and Jews. But the Quran does teach its followers to kill unbelievers, especially Jews and Christians.
Islam is the most dangerous Theo-political-legal system in the world. It seeks to convert or destroy the entire world. Just see for yourself:
Sura 9:5 And so, when the sacred months are over, slay those who ascribe divinity to aught beside God wherever you may come upon them, and take them captive, and besiege them, and lie in wait for them at every conceivable place! Yet if they repent, and take to prayer, and render the purifying dues, let them go their way: for, behold, God is much forgiving, a dispenser of grace.
Islam is a backward barbaric political/religious system that does not compare to the love of God in the Bible. There is no doubt in my mind that YHWH and Allah are two completely different gods. One is the God of Love and the other is the god of death.
Islam needs to be defeated on all fronts. If one can't see that then one is either a Muslim who wants to dominate the world, or is a person that is blind or completely nuts.
When are the Islamists going to stop?
Europeans and Americans dispensed with slavery hundreds of years ago.
When are the Islamists going to stop?
In light of the fact that EVERY country that is now Islamist was once something else, I see no reason to believe the Islamists will ever stop.
What the world needs now is a whole lot more Islamophobes.
This website is a joke and a thinly-veiled Islamophobic rant (Christians were "martyred", while other religionists were "killed"?). Good thing true intellectuals and academics don't listen to this kind of hogwash. You all can live in your closed little world thinking that you are important or that anyone really pays attention to your stupidity.
Tell that to the Christian boys who were senselessly slaughtered on Christmas Even 2009. Wait... did I type "Christians". I guess one would assume it was Muslims that killed them (because they were just Christian and just 'there').
Why would anyone assume a Muslim killing a Christian? Probably because the practice has been going on for so long that it is now inherent and/or intrinsic in culture to just automatically say 'Oh. Yeah. Muslims killing Christians again."
Let us not take the Crusades and the Christian guilt and thwart it upon today's society. Unless, of course, there are Christians still killing somewhere in the name of God that most are not aware of?
What do you think the right figures are? What is important is that we start trying to find the true history. Something has to explain how Islam annihilated all other groups in Islamic lands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It_X7CFVsFI
Hindus are worst affected even today.
In 1971 the islamic army of pakistan butchered 3 million bangladeshis mostly hindus. Add another 3 million more to the 80 million dead hindus.
Shame on pisslam to call itself a religion of piece..if at all someone argues religion is the trouble to the entire world....sorry its only islam..islam is the root cause of all evil in this world.
It is quite evident you want christians to read your quaran. If you are a true muslim, it is a sin for you to read a bible. So where do you get of trying to get christian people to read a book akin to a fairy tale. Thata all it is to us. First there was christianity. The romans then started roman catholics as a sense of control over christians who they could not control by force. I do not believe in roman catholics as their religion is manipulative and controlling, much like the quaran. It also came about much later after the death of christ. Then, when arabs could not control the christians and jews, they then had this polite prophet come along and start his preaching a different book again. What you do not tell everyone here is that Mohamad actually preached for 9 years and only gained 13 followers. That is all the belief he could muster. It is interesting to note, that after that, this humble servant then became pooticially motivated and started writing add ins to his quaran to suit the moment at hand. Seems he had an open line to god lol. First he says treat other peoples with respect and respect their religions. Thats while he had no power. Then he comes back and says, kill and lie to those who would harm his followers, thats while he had a little power. Thats when he started using terrorism. Then he changed again and said, kill the infadel. Interesting he came up with that one while he had the total control of arabia. so the man had a system bent on humble when overpowered, like muslims in america today preaching religion of kindness. then it went to play it calm in face of enemy and kill behind their back when he had power but not control. Then it went to indescriminate killing after he got power. Sounds like this mohamed was nothing more different to a modern day dictator. Its written in the life of mohamed how he worked and lived if you ever tried to read it. Maybe its banned for muslims lol...and I could see why. But only a moron would believe in mohamed after studying his life and ways. It is clear he was a false prophet and god certainly did not reward him with longitude of life like all other prophets. He wrote a great fairy tale though and should be remembered among the greats like dante Alegieri and willian shakespeare. Open your eyes to all posibilities before slamming others for not reading. Just because you read the one book they didnt and dont want to does not make you better. It shows your weakness is all.
1000 years and instead of increasing, instead of remaining 14.5 Million, they went down to 2.5 Million.
If we assume the number should have remained 14.5 Million. I we estimate One generation every 25 years. Then we have 250 generations over 1000 years. Over 250 generations, the population lost 12 Million from its total count.
on average each generation would have had to lose 48,000 people over 250 generations over 1000 years so that the minimum number of losses would be 12 Million Egyptians. Of course the number of loss is higher since people usually give more birth when facing poverty and hard times and there was no birth control available.
Regards,